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Amazon Worlds: Your thoughts?

TycheSong

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#1 | Posted: 24 May 2013 05:25 
Okay. So here we have a venue offering to pay us for what we do for fun. The premise is simple: they obtain permission from the original writer, and both the fic authors and the original author receive royalties off of any money made. Sounds great on the surface, but is it worth it? Some things to think about:

* Anything you submit to Amazon Worlds becomes the property of Worlds and subject for use by anyone else on Worlds involved. This means if you have an awesome plot idea or OC, you can no longer use it ANYWHERE else but Worlds, including a free site like here, or ffn.

* Furthermore, you are giving anyone else involved with Worlds access. It all becomes fodder for the users. If I make an OC, she is now usable by anyone on the site. And they don't have to ask permission or even credit me.

* Another thought--will this open doors for published authors to say that we are not allowed to write fan fiction unless we go through Worlds and they make money? You bet it does! We survive on the graciousness of our authors looking the other way and indulging us. If a writer only cares about $ however, why would they look the other way when they could be potentially paid for it?

* My final point: if everything switches over to a system like this (or similar), that means readers (including you) now how to pay for fanfiction. Do you really want to fork over .99 every time you want to download one of your fave fic-author's new stories?

Food for thought...
Not quite thirty. Likes to jump off high things. Kind of a swot. Mass reading. Light baking.
jamies_lady

Registered Female

#2 | Posted: 24 May 2013 10:55 
it makes me shudder.. Here I can have my OF or rewrite my FF to become original... as I did for my book.... Something I wouldn't be allowed to do, and what happens if they deceide to make a story into a film? who gets that royalty cheque? bad bad idea
elvara hrolfswiffe
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#3 | Posted: 24 May 2013 12:09 
Well they don't appear to check if you can write, so getting published there won't raise your chances of getting famous.
No porn - there goes 99% of fanfiction. The sharing original bits is just rather odd.

I can see 'them' trying to make it all like that if this gets a decent amount of members though, fanfic payment and regulation included in all publishing contracts so that the publisher gets to decide and their decisions are always monetary - you conform and get royalty, and anything sexy or 'offensive' is illegal - in which case fanfic would become underground. Kids getting arrested and sued for millions because they wrote a fanfic of something they love - which in no way hurts the creator, it is praise in most cases - made an example of and twisting the concepts of morality, corporate greed knows no limit. It's kinda weird fanfiction.net wasn't bought out yet.

Is that a kitten in my tea?
66worrywart

Registered Female

#4 | Posted: 24 May 2013 14:15 | Edited by: 66worrywart 
There is just something 'off' about this whole proposal, in my opinion. I can see some poor young writer, thinking this is his ticket to fame, and not knowing all the legal jargon, signing away his or her creation with little to no recourse. No sir, I don't like it. I am very interested; however, to see what sort of reaction we will see from the major fan fic sites, if any.
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TycheSong

Registered Female

#5 | Posted: 24 May 2013 18:50 | Edited by: TycheSong 
Well said, Schuetz.

I think authors who publish through it will loose reader base. I will not pay for fan-fiction, personally, and would probably stop reading authors who tried that route--even their free stuff. I think I would almost feel betrayed that they're breaking the long-standing tradition of sharing the world with each other for free. The word "sellout" comes to mind.

I'm probably being way too harsh, though.

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Draceline

Registered Female

#6 | Posted: 24 May 2013 22:19 
And now to post, and expand on, this in the CORRECT place...

I just heard about this Kindle Worlds thing and I don't know what to think. I understand the want to make money one something that you work so hard on, but at the same time the risks are scary. However, I foresee a large number of people writing things just for the sake of making money, which means there will likely be a lot of crap being churned out and posted, hiding the good even more. A good portion of it will probably be have the same premise/ ship/ characters as all the others. Same thing, different wrapper. Money often crushes true creativity.

Actually, it's almost like they are playing off the common stereotype that fanfiction lacks creativity. Sadly, I hear stuff like that all the time.

I would honestly rather try to get a license to write for the franchise. Look what all those authors write for Star Trek (BIG example, Diane Duane) or Star Wars or Halo, etc.. In essence, they ARE paid to write fanfiction.

Or pull a 50 Shades escapade. Minus the porn. I don't write porn.


Now I wonder what they would do to someone who wrote original fiction as well as fanfiction. Would they try to screw them out of their TRULY, COMPLETELY original stuff too? Probably.
Draceline

Registered Female

#7 | Posted: 24 May 2013 22:31 
Now, did anyone else notice that 4 of the 6 authors that Amazon quoted in THEIR announcement were romance novelists? Of the "Supermarket trash" variety?
AnneM

Registered Female

#8 | Posted: 25 May 2013 08:02 
I like reading romance novels, although I don't know if they constitute 'supermarket trash'. I like reading Eloise James, Elizabeth Hoyt, Sophia Nash, Mary Balogh, Tessa Dare and others. I don't particularly follow the 'fandoms' that World is going to base their stories on, and I actually think it wouldn't take off unless HP and Twilight were involved, and HP would never be involved... in my opinion.
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GeekyMum

Registered Female

#9 | Posted: 25 May 2013 19:49 
Here are my two cents worth regarding this issue. Money, it's always about the blasted money. Fandom isn't a world, is an ever expanding universe and after the success of Fifty Shades and The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones it was just too tempting to get a piece of the action. Why wait for it when you can go to source?

TycheSong, I agree totally with you, especially the last two points and I most certainly will not pay for fanfiction. AnneM my library is full of romance fiction. I think you and I like most of the same authors. I see a few in your comment I haven't heard of or read. Romance is alive and well and it has come a long way. Harry Potter fandom is huge, more than huge. It keeps the books alive and relevant why mess with it?
Elena
StitchWitch

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#10 | Posted: 18 Jun 2013 01:22 
I shuddered a little bit at the over-pronounced emphasis on "LEGITIMIZING" fanfiction. I mean, in my opinion, as long as we add a disclamer and the original author hasn't said "Yeah, no" to fanfiction, I feel it is legitimate. Because that's exactly what it is, Fanfiction. If my fanfiction is SO amazing that it just HAS to be an original work, I'll write it and take it to a publisher myself... and not practically give my ideas and characters away for everyone else to use and make money off of.
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